During today’s House Judiciary hearing, Rep Cline grilled special counsel John Durham on the details of the falsified FISA documents that allowed the FBI to spy illegally on a very innocent Carter Page. Cline confirmed the shocking details from Durham’s disturbing report. At one point, Cline asks Durham to explain how FBI agents falsified evidence when submitting the FISA report.
Durham stated that the FBI did not have a predicate for the investigation. Durham also confirmed that the FBI failed to examine all exculpatory evidence.
When no evidence turned up, the FBI leadership continued the case. They never interviewed key witnesses. Agents abused their authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Durham confirmed.
Rep. Cline asked what the FBI could have done outside of immediately opening a full counterintelligence investigation.
Mr. Durham replied:
“Attorney General Edward Levy essentially created the guidelines in this area, these three divisions of assessments, preliminary and then full, although they were different names at the time. That has evolved over time and become more particular.
“In this instance, the information that they had received from Papadopoulos about a suggestion of a suggestion and not anything about emails, but just a suggestion of a suggestion, was sufficient and would have been, would have required the FBI to take a look at, well, what is this about?
“The opening is an assessment, and then you would analytically go try to collect intelligence that either supports or refutes or explains that information. That’s the whole purpose of it.
“You assess it, and if the evidence bears it out, you go to a full investigation where you have all the tools available, including the most intrusive physical surveillance and electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens.
“Here they just immediately want to open it as a full investigation without ever having talked to the Australians or gathered other evidence.”
Cline then confirmed. “Right. So investigators relied on misstatements by the confidential human source, ignored exculpatory statements made by Papadopoulos in submitting the FISA application to surveil Carter Page, correct?”
He answered in the affirmative. Cline then asked him to expand the deceit used for the FISA application.
Durham elaborated:
“In connection with one of the agents who had come on board, wanted to be certain that there was information that, was their information as to whether or not Carter Page had been a source of information to the CIA, and pressed Kevin Clinesmith, in the General Counsel’s Office of the FBI, on that point.
“Clinesmith got a hold of people at another government agency, intelligence agency on the issue, and that person indicated, not indicated, said that yes, in the FBI parlance, Carter Page was the source, and put that in writing.
“When Clinesmith talked to the agent who was saying, we want to be sure on this, was he or was he, not a source, Clinesmith said, no, he said he’s not. He said, did we get that in writing? Clinesmith said yes, and they said, well, I want to see it. And then Clinesmith altered the other government agency document to reflect this, to say that Page was not a source when he, in fact, was a source. That’s the gist of it.”
Rep. Cline asked: “What did the investigators mean when they said they hoped the returns on the Carter Page vice application would, quote, self-corroborate? That is another troublesome thing.”
Mr. Durham’s response was troubling. “Maybe Agent was, they’re saying, well, if we can get on surveillance, electronic surveillance of Page, then we’ll find out, essentially, whether we really do have probable cause or not. He would self-corroborate in that sense.”
This is something Lavrentiy Beria would do.
We are all familiar with this Beria quote, “Show me the man, and I’ll find you the crime.” But do you know this next one? “Given a short time with a psycho-politician you can alter forever the loyalty of a soldier in our hands or a statesman or a leader in his own country, or you can destroy his mind.”
This comes on top of the latest James O’Keefe undercover report. That report suggests US senators can be bought for $10,000.
Falsification of the warrant application is a serious crime. Oath violator Durham is showing his incredible irresponsibility. A decent person goes after those warrant requests. That rules out a Crook Barr sycophant.
Those who sign the warrant request swear under oath that they verified the validity of the request, with stated criminal penalties for violating. The requests were so weak that no honest person would sign them. Any investigator who does not focus on those requests is immediately recognized as part of the criminal coverup. Of course, the RINO Channel wants to make Durham a hero, which reflects negatively onto Durham.
Our current justice system is truly indistinguishable from that found in a banana republic.
I still don’t understand how the FISA court was able to allow the FBI to spy on President Trump, several people associated with him or even any other US citizen. This so called “secret” court was set up to allow search warrants for and spying on non US citizens believed to be involved in terrorism or espeonage. If a US citizen was found to be involved in one of these investigations, they were to be referred to another court or agency authorized to investigate US citizens. The FISA warrants were never to be used to spy on Americans. Those seeking FISA warrants against Trump and/or any other US citizen should be prosecuted along with any FISA judge who grants the warrant.
The crooked FISA court did not even conduct a hearing on the requests, they signed off remotely.
Virtually everything in that hearing is what we’ve all known for years. It makes this another hearing that has little merit, or usefulness. The only one who did any serious questioning was Matt Gaetz. This isn’t the first time Durham has covered for the FBI, including Mueller. Considering all the statutes that so many others have been indicted on, such as Trump, it is quite disingenuous that Durham basically made himself one of those “reasonable prosecutors”, when it comes to “brothers of the DOJ”. Gaetz made a revealing point in comparing the Durham team to the Washington Generals.
We can see how Jordan is filling the shoes of Trey Gowdy quite well. He’s become a clone of Gowdy, with his rattling off talking points, and when it comes to questions, they have little to no probative value.
Gaetz is great and real.
This hearing is a show for the RINOs to pretend to be opposition and worried about justice. It is also a show to lionized the incredibly irresponsible Durham.
Jordan has already failed in his leadership role. He is another betrayer, not as bad as Gowdy, who made cheap incriminating remarks against Trump, which got him a big media job.
Durham’s entire approach from the start indicated obstruction of justice.
Blah! Blah! Blah! …mistakes were made…
Lot’s of talk but how will the mess of the past be corrected? How can there ever undo the damage, especially all the damage done to Trump and associates, as well as the country.
What would our country and our world be like today half way through Trump’s second term with a Republican house and a Republican Senate.
No major inflation (so many life literally around the world not damaged)
Better handling of the ‘pandemic’ crisis. No bad vaccines
NO war in the Ukraine.
The Biden Crime family in prison.
Hillary behind bars?
Adam idiot Schiff never in a position of power.
No stupid false impeachment
No radical wokes in positions of power.
Such sorry thoughts of should have beens…
…and I for one expect things will keep gettng worse.
The elites arranged the election coup because they cannot tolerate the USA prospering in freedom.